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[[User:Naraht|Naraht]] 03:55, 17 Jul 2005 (PDT) | [[User:Naraht|Naraht]] 03:55, 17 Jul 2005 (PDT) | ||
I suspect it is a colloquialism. My wife was active in the Dallas area for a number of years, and even dated a member at one time before we met. It was over 6 years ago, but they referred to themselves as such and so did everyone else in the area. [http://xinuapo.org/newsletter/NewsletterN1V1_2004.pdf Their Alumni Newsletter] refers to themselves as a Viking chapter in the middle of page 1 and in the same context as I use it. Then again, it is moot point of discussion since the chapter apparently went inactive in the last few years, and will have to come back co-ed whether they want to or not. Perhaps it is that most if not all other all male chapters in that area are HBCU so they just rolled with it, and in the midwest and eastern all-male chapters don't have the same context and feel differently. | I suspect it is a colloquialism. I meant that they may not use the symbolism, but take the name out of its prevalence and common usage. My wife was active in the Dallas area for a number of years, and even dated a member at one time before we met. It was over 6 years ago, but they referred to themselves as such and so did everyone else in the area. [http://xinuapo.org/newsletter/NewsletterN1V1_2004.pdf Their Alumni Newsletter] refers to themselves as a Viking chapter in the middle of page 1 and in the same context as I use it. Then again, it is moot point of discussion since the chapter apparently went inactive in the last few years, and will have to come back co-ed whether they want to or not. Perhaps it is that most if not all other all male chapters in that area are HBCU so they just rolled with it, and in the midwest and eastern all-male chapters don't have the same context and feel differently. I guess I may very well basing my arguement on one chapter and insulting both sides, since for all I know HBCU chapters may have looked down on them for using the name, but it is my experience. | ||
I have to admit that most of the west coast brothers don't know all-male chapters exist, or about the [[Gentleman's Agreement]] until their first National Convention experience with them. And, we won't run into them until the next National Convention. So we have referred to them as such, but it may be a regional thing.--[[User:RogerClark|RogerClark]] 09:21, 18 Jul 2005 (PDT) | I have to admit that most of the west coast brothers don't know all-male chapters exist, or about the [[Gentleman's Agreement]] until their first National Convention experience with them. And, we won't run into them until the next National Convention. So we have referred to them as such, but it may be a regional thing.--[[User:RogerClark|RogerClark]] 09:21, 18 Jul 2005 (PDT) | ||
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This last change is untrue. While the use Viking Symbolism is primarily at HBCU, it is not necessarily exclusive to them. All-male chapters are generally referred to as Viking Chapters. This is whether they want to be called this or not, it is a generalized term.
I know Xi Nu at Texas Wesleyan is not an HBCU, but everyone refers to is as a Viking Chapter. --RogerClark 08:36, 15 Jul 2005 (PDT)
- It is not. The "Viking Chapters" are those which use the Viking Symbology. The only time I have seen Viking used as a symbol at a non-HBCU is at Austin Peay State University, where most of the chapter was African-American. I have talked to brothers at Delta (Auburn), Nu Mu (U of MN - Duluth), and Pi Chi (Duquesne) and none of them use the term Viking.
There is no mention of the word "Viking" in the entire xinuapo.org website. If they don't use it, why should others refer to them that way? Naraht 03:55, 17 Jul 2005 (PDT)
I suspect it is a colloquialism. I meant that they may not use the symbolism, but take the name out of its prevalence and common usage. My wife was active in the Dallas area for a number of years, and even dated a member at one time before we met. It was over 6 years ago, but they referred to themselves as such and so did everyone else in the area. Their Alumni Newsletter refers to themselves as a Viking chapter in the middle of page 1 and in the same context as I use it. Then again, it is moot point of discussion since the chapter apparently went inactive in the last few years, and will have to come back co-ed whether they want to or not. Perhaps it is that most if not all other all male chapters in that area are HBCU so they just rolled with it, and in the midwest and eastern all-male chapters don't have the same context and feel differently. I guess I may very well basing my arguement on one chapter and insulting both sides, since for all I know HBCU chapters may have looked down on them for using the name, but it is my experience.
I have to admit that most of the west coast brothers don't know all-male chapters exist, or about the Gentleman's Agreement until their first National Convention experience with them. And, we won't run into them until the next National Convention. So we have referred to them as such, but it may be a regional thing.--RogerClark 09:21, 18 Jul 2005 (PDT)